2012 / 2013 Prescribed Minimum and Guaranteed Wages for the Motor Industry (MIBCO)

Please be advised that the Main Collective Agreement for the Motor Industry was amended in respect of the prescribed minimum & guaranteed wages effective 1 September 2012.

The Motor Industry Bargaining Council (MIBCO) has published the new minimum wage rates and guaranteed wage increases for the period 1 September 2012 to 31 August 2013 on their website:

http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf

http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.07%20sector%205%20wage%20circular.pdf

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108 responses to “2012 / 2013 Prescribed Minimum and Guaranteed Wages for the Motor Industry (MIBCO)

  1. Lucas

    Pls can you help me to inform me on a welder double coded 2nd year rates thank you.

  2. Mosimobe

    I am currently employed at Linemore Fitment Centre. I am working as an admin clerk. Receptionist, manage a group of five people. Cashier and i do the daily banking, sales person. My salary is R3000: no uif, no provided fund. Only the R3000:

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Mosimobe

      Based on the information you have provided and the current minimum wage rates for employees working in the Motor Industry, office staff should be earning a minimum wage of between R3464.76 and R5285.97 per month. To confirm this, please consult the Motor Industry wage tables available at http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf

      You should also be contributing towards the Motor Industry Provident Fund.

      UIF is a contribution that your employer must deduct from your salary and equally contribute on your behalf. This is a statutory contribution which means your employer is, by law, responsible to pay these contributions.

      Please refer your employer to the following websites:

      For minimum wage confirmation, the Motor Industry Bargaining Council – http://www.mibco.org.za
      For provident fund rules, the Motor Industry Fund Administrators – http://www.mifa.org.za
      For legislation on UIF contributions, the South African Revenue Service – http://www.sars.gov.za

      Regards

      Madelein

  3. Jimmy

    Hi Madeleine,

    I’m currently working for Super Group a large logistic company and one of their clients is mercedes benz and we distribute automotive parts for mecerdes benz. in 2009 we were given Mibco forms and told we are now under Mibco. Since then our xmas bonuses is only two weeks salary. Pls tell me how can employees of logistic company falls under Mibco.

  4. Madelein van der Watt

    Hi Jimmy

    The scope of the main agreement does include:

    “the business carried on mainly or exclusively for the sale of motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts and/or spares and/or accessories (whether new or used)
    pertaining thereto, whether or not such sale is conducted from premises which are attached to a part of an establishment wherein is conducted the assembly of or repairs to motor vehicles;”

    If you are mainly responsible for the distribution of such parts and not the actual sales, my straightforward answer would be that you should rather sign up with the National Bargaining Council for the Road Freight and Logistics Industry (http://www.nbcrfli.org.za)

    There might be a specific reason why you are members of the Motor Industry Bargaining Council – speak to your HR division to confirm the reason for your affiliation with MIBCO.

  5. Solly sebethwane chauke

    We didn’t get increase and our provident fund statement in 2 years.i just wanna know if we are still in your council?and what can be the problem for us not getting increase.(overtal labour solutions)

  6. Solly sebethwane chauke

    Hi Madelein one more thing minimum wage rates for STOREMAN working under MIBCO?

  7. Lee

    Hi,

    I wonder if you would be able to tell me the minimum wage for a wheel alignment technician.

    Thanks,

    Lee

  8. Madelein van der Watt

    Hi Lee

    The minimum wage rates for the Motor Industry effective 01 September 2012 are available on the MIBCO website, http://www.mibco.org.za

    The direct link to the wage circular is:

    http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf

    Regards

    Madelein

  9. seth

    Hi

    Can u tell me what is a minimum wage for a junior design technician who holds a NATIONAL DIPLOMA FROM A UNIVERSITY. After having to complete my in service training with one of the mibco registered company,i received a very discouraging permanent in terms of pay scales and i think i need to know whether if are they set like that or not(i don’t seem to find my job category on the mibco pay scales posted)

    please assist.

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Seth

      You first need to establish which sector of the 7 you are employed in. Please refer page 1 of the wage tables available at http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf for the sector definitions.
      Determine your employment classification. If it is not clear, perhaps ask your employer to confirm the classification they used to determine the wage they are offering. Once you know the sector and correct employment classification, you can look up the minimum wage rate.

      Regards

      Madelein

      • seth

        Thank u for the prompt response.

        The employer is sector 1 which is vehicle body builders and i am permanent with the company,,,i work from 7H00 to 17H00 every week days,I tend to do what is familiar to what the manager does(e.g.s are designing and creation of data packs).i feel to be exploited and thus want to know my NQF L6 payscales with MIBCO.i get paid around R6500.00 at the end of the month where else mibco states 1500 per week for NQF LEVEL 4.

        regards
        Seth

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Seth

        Based on the information you supply it does sound as if your current remuneration is in line with the minimum wage rates prescribed by the council. If you do feel that you need official confirmation, please contact your local MIBCO regional office and ask for their assistance in investigating your query. The regional office contact details are available at http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us

        Regards

        Madelein

  10. malombo

    seth i once worked one of the motor sectors and was very surprised by the low payscales.i would suggest u look for an engineering sector( u are a practicing engineer when u hold a national diploma and u deserve better)

  11. Unknow

    Hi i would like to knw ,i have been working for a fitment center as a cleaner for 7years now ,our boss keeps changing the date n month of the increase every year is that rite by mibco law ? Second question since i’hv been with the same company no 1 was ever send for any course or got a promotion at work.

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi

      If your company is a member of MIBCO, then certain minimum wages must be applied on the effective dates announced each year. The last wage increase was effective 01 September 2012. Only if your employer consulted with the employees and relevant trade unions may he apply for a Wage Exemption to pay a lesser wage increase. This application does not exempt him from paying any increase at all.
      Training is only required for specific grades of employees and based on the employee’s qualifications and experience, his wage grade or classification must be adjusted accordingly and at the same time, the minimum wage he is paid.
      If you feel that you are being treated unfairly in the workplace, you have the option to make contact with your sector’s Bargaining Council or alternatively, the Department of Labour, to report the issue.

      Regards

      Madelein

  12. How does someone register to MIBCO is it the company do tht for you or as the employed person u have to sign the papers so tht u won’t be in danger in future to claim yo money cos this is wht is happening to me even concerning UIF plz help me

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Mkhusto

      To answer your question, I will quote a section from the MIBCO website (http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/faq)

      “What do I do if my Employer does not want to register me?
      As an employee falling within the ambit of the Motor Industry your Employer is OBLIGED to register you with the Council. Should he/she be uncooperative in this regard an Agent from our Complaints Department will be more than willing to assist in getting your Employer onto the road to compliance. Your Employer must understand that he/she does not have a choice in this matter. The Council’s Agreements are strict to this measure. Please visit our nearest Regional Branch for assistance.”

      Regards

      Madelein

  13. I’m performing as n RSA,fitter and driver at this moment. What sould my mounthly salery be?

  14. jade

    im working in stores for 2 years,id like to know my wage rate for a week please.

  15. Madelein van der Watt

    Hi Jade

    You can look up the minimum wage rate for your grade and sector at http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf

    Regards

    Madelein

  16. jade

    Hi Madelien
    i work in stores (clerical)
    our company registerd i think @ the begining of last year & i have been working here for 4 years so im not sure what my wage rate should be because they are only paying me as 2 year expeience.

  17. jade

    there’s an employee (employed as administrator) who worked in the bank and is now using the banking qualifications in the motor industry company,apparently that’s why she gets paid more than the other lady also employed as admin…and actually i do the exact same work as the both of them except for quotes so how come all 3 of our wage rates is waaay different,please help.

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Jade

      The rates prescribed by the council are merely minimum wages. The employer must ensure that employees in the industry earn at least the minimum and receive the prescribed annual increases. Employers may pay their employees more than the prescribed minimum wage based on qualifications, experience and performance.

      Regards

      Madelein

      • jbabethomas@yahoo.com

        Ok,thanx and if I had 2 leave…wen do I collect my provident fund?
        Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi

        Once your resignation has been brought to the attention of the provident fund, you will have the option of continuing to contribute to the fund or cancelling your contribution to either transfer your money into a different fund or paying out your money as a cash lump sum. The payout may only take place once a tax directive has been issued by SARS.
        Please note, that for your own benefit, you should continue to contribute to the fund if possible, alternatively transfer your money into a different fund. If you take the cash payout, you will lose out on valuable retirement savings and you will also contribute a big portion of your money towards income tax.

        Regards

        Madelein

      • jade

        hi madelein
        Could you please tell me what “LEAVE PAY BONUS” is.

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Jade

        Clause 6 of the main agreement of the Motor Industry Bargaining Council requires specific employees who qualify for paid annual leave to also receive an annual leave bonus which is payable on completion of 12 month’s service or when an employee takes annual leave or no later than 20 December each year. The bonus amount should be two weeks’ wages, limited to a maximum amount.

        For more information, look at Clause 6 in the main agreement (http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/simplified%20main%20agreement%206%20may%202011.pdf) or contact your MIBCO representative (http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us)

        Regards

        Madelein

      • jade

        hi madelien,how do i calculate the wage increase wich starts from the 1st of next month.

  18. nomfuneko latsha

    hai my comment is based on my wages im working under contract so my rate is too low ,as a qualified spraypainter how can i rate 24.81 p/h can u explain me how this happen becoz i was rating 42.6… now i m in durban is there any defference between the provinces

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Nomfuneko

      The only area where wage rates may differ is in the Eastern Cape. All other areas should apply the same minimum wage rates. If you are unsure about the rate you should be earning, please contact the council and discuss your situation. Contact details fore the Kwazulu Natal region can be found at http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us or phone them on 031 – 205 5525

      Regards

      Madelein

  19. Dane

    Hello I am working for nearly two and a half years @ Northern Natal motor engineering (as from today Mid-Natal Motor engineering. I started earning R250 per week as a workshop assistant no UIF or provident fund.Now I am earning R400 per week doing Cylinder head reconditioning,and our boss told us today he’s going to register us for UIF still no provident fund and going to sign a contract which has yet to be presented to me. I need to know the legal and smart to get what I rightfully should get..Thank you

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Dane

      First, look at p13 of the Industry Guide available at http://www.mibco.org.za/images/2012%20Industry%20Guide.pdf to determine your current grade.
      Once you know your grade, access the current minimum wage rate tables at http://www.mibco.org.za/images/PDF/2012.05%20wages%201%20september%202012.pdf

      You will be able to determine what your minimum wage should be.If you are earning less than the prescribed minimum, you must contact the council to inform them that your employer is not paying you the required rate and that you are not contributing towards the industry provident fund. The council will be able to assist you.

      Please take note that it is an employer’s legal duty to deduct and contribute UIF contributions from all employees. Your employer should have made the necessary contributions to UIF since your first day employed.

      I suggest that you inform your employer that by not contributing to UIF, he is not complying with legislation and, based on confirmation you receive from the bargaining council, he might also not be complying with industry regulations which are also governed by the Department of Labour.

      Regards

      Madelein

  20. JOANA

    HI I WORK FOR BATTERY CENTRE FOR 7 YEARS DOING COUNTER SALE AND MY SALARY ISR3800 IS THE CORRECT PLEASE HELP

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Joana

      I am not sure about your sector or area that you work in, but based on the current minimum wages still in place until 31 August 2013, you should be earning at the very least R5141.63 per month.
      Your employer is definitely not applying the minimum wages prescribed by your industry agreements.

      Regards

      Madelein

  21. mary-anne martin

    Plz can u help me I’m working at faurecia but for an agent named Production Salution Africa (PSA) who pay me 925rnd a week for 45hours according to them that is the minimum wage that they must give us and they said they were sitting with the barganin council of mibco and this was the amount that was given to them for a grade 3 employee I just want to know is that the rate that I must get , and seeing that I’m a spray painter what is the rate and grade that I must get even if I’m working for an agent

  22. mary-anne martin

    Good day I’m working for a agent at a motor industry company according to the agent the min wage they must give us is 925rnd for a general worker with grade 3 for 45hour week. I just want to know is this calculation rite and seeing that I’m a spray painter what is the rate and grade I must get even if I’m working for an agent

  23. Dumisinkosi Mkhwanazi

    Am working at a panel shop as an assembler am working permanent but my salary doesn’t correspond with my salary on my contract what must I do plz help

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Dumisinkosi

      Your employment contract should state your exact remuneration and that should be at least equal to the minimum rate set by the bargaining council’s main agreement. If you are earning less than minimum wage, please contact a MIBCO representative in your area to report the problem (http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us).

      Regards

      Madelein

  24. I wrkin at a company by the name auto bumper. I du flatting and polishing i jst wnt 2 knw whats the increase persentage of septembr 2013 as my boss sayz their is no increase this year

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Michael

      The increases effective 01 September 2013 have not been published yet due to ongoing wage negotiations which were expected to be concluded late last week. As soon as any new info is available I will make it available.

      Regards

      Madelein

  25. Frans

    Good Day

    I work for the motor industry company as a Polisher i would like to know the notice period i must give to my workplace if i want to resign, and do i get paid for the uif and holidays as we get 3 weeks off in december? and how do i go about claiming for a provident fund?

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Frans

      If you are paid weekly you must give at least one week’s notice. If you are paid monthly at least two weeks’ notice is required.
      You are entitled to a pro-rata holiday payment as well as leave pay for the number of annual leave days due on date of resignation.
      You may only claim from UIF if you are unemployed due to being dismissed therefore if you resign voluntarily you are not entitled to UIF benefits.
      To find out how to claim from the provident fund, please contact the fund administrators, MIFA (http://www.mifa.org.za/)

      Regards

      Madelein

      • Frans

        Good Day Madelein

        Thank you very much for the response, one more theing i would like to know is, does the company pay you immediately after you resigned (the bonus and the holiday money) or you have to wait until the end of the year.

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Frans

        The payments should be made on resignation and not at year end as you will only receive the amount that was accrued until your resignation date and not the full year’s allocation.

  26. Can you please help me with the rates on destruction and audit bay on level 4 is how much please

  27. THATO

    HI MADELEIN

    I AM CURRENTLY WORKING AS A BOOKING CLERK AT AUDI CENTRE RUSTENBURG AND MY WAGE IS CURRENTLY 6500 BASIC AND BEFORE THAT I WAS WORKING AT THE SWICH BOARD THE WAGE WAS 4500 PER MONTH PLEASE TELL ME THE CORRECT AMOUNT THAT I SHOULD BE GETTING FOR THE BOOKING OR SWICH..

    REGARDS

    THATO

  28. THATO

    OK THANK YOU MADELEIN THAT HELPS ALOT. I ALSO WANT TO ASK ON BEHALF OF GORDON A QUALIFIED TECHNICIAN HOW MUCH THEIR MUST EARN HIS A
    TECHNICIAN AT V/W?

    REGARD

  29. THATO

    THANK YOU MADELEIN ONE LAST QUESTION IS REGARDING OUR DRIVERS WHAT IS THEIR MINIMUM WAGE. SORRY FOR ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS BUT THE THING IS THEIR DON’T HAVE ACSES TO COMPUTERS.

  30. jana

    Can you plz help my.I’ve work for a company where thy was part of the mibco thing.I’m not working for them eney more.Neet to know how do I claim that monny now.Is there a office in Rustenburg where thy can help me.

  31. Shelton

    Pliz I help me ,I just wanna know the minimum wage per hour for a checker and driver in the motor industry.
    Thank you.

  32. Mary-Anne

    Hi I just want to find out what the minimum wage is for a Cam Auto Setter in the Motor Industry.My boyfriend is not qualified as setter,but does anything that a qualified setter does,he did ask to get qualified as Setter because he has many years setting experience and by this compony that he works for for 5 years allready he only earns R30 an hour for setting the machines and operate it all on his own.The other thing that is a bit confusing is that his signed contract with Mibco and his work states that he is a supervisor,but on his payslip stands Setter,musnt it states on his contract that he is a Setter too,because at work he is not a Supervisor but only on paper.I think that R30 an hour is a disgrace.

  33. ...

    hi i work at the tyre fitment center as a all rounder i do shocks,suspension,tyres and aligment and i would like to know at list how much must get paid a week

  34. Sphamandla Alex Ntombela

    hi I was working at petrol station and got retrenched in 2003 after that I received a letter from MIBCO to collet a Cheque but i was never contacted after that and still today I don’t know what happened to that money and I don’t know what to because if I call the offices in Durban no one is answering

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Sphamandla

      You can contact the KZN regional office on (031)205 5525 or the Head Office in Gauteng on (011)369 7500

      Regards

      Madelein

  35. Gilbert

    Hi,please help am mibco member working for a motor industry company…My question is does mibco send letters to companies after it has made an increase percentage for motor industry?coz everytime I ask my employer he says he is waiting for the letter from mibco..please reply through my email

  36. Hello I just wanna ask that if were never registered at SARS fo tax, what you are suppose to do if you want to claim provident fund after u being dismissed. Because they need tax number

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Wellington

      You must have an income tax reference number if you are employed. Your employer is supposed to submit your income and deduction information to SARS twice a year during the Employer Reconciliation periods. They cannot do this without having a valid income tax reference number for you. If you do not have a tax number, your employer must submit a registration request to SARS. SARS will then issue you with your income tax reference number.

      Regards

      Madelein

  37. Letlhogonolo Rudolph Moalusi

    Good day
    We are aprentices with a specific company.
    I would lik to know what can we do if we are not being paid acordingly. And we hav raised this with mersita and there is no solution. The companay advisis that they are doin us a favor with the apprentice.
    We hav been advised that as appretices we can’t go to unions or barfaining council.
    What is your advise.

    Kind regards

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Letlhogonolo

      I suggest you contact the MIBCO Shared Service Centre on 011 – 369 7500 to report your problem. They should be able to provide you with assistance.

      Regards

      Madelein

  38. michael roux

    good day i want to now what is the holiday pay.I am working a year now salary of R10000.00 per month and what is the bonus,My boss say there is no holidaypay or bonus.I am register.thanks

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Michael

      According to the Motor Industry Bargaining Council Main Agreement, employees in the industry are entitled to at least 3 weeks’ paid annual leave as well as a holiday bonus payable not later than 20 December each year.

      There are exclusions and the amounts available to different job grades do vary, but every employee is entitled to paid annual leave.

      For more information and to get exact feedback based on your specific situation, please contact the MIBCO Shared Service Centre on 011 – 369 7500

      Regards

      Madelein

      • Janette Dekker

        Good day, I would like to find out what i can do if i want to resign and claim my provident fund but my employer hasn’t paid over the conteibutions? Thank you

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Janette

        The FAQ section on the MIBCO website offers a clear explanation for your query. I will quote directly from http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/faq

        “In this instance you should lodge a formal complaint at your Regional Mibco office so that the matter can be taken forward by the Inspectorate. Once this has been done Employers who are in arrears with their returns and payments are prosecuted through the Mibco Dispute Resolution Centre (DRC). This is the legal remedy available to the Council for the collection of arrears. A directive to pay issued by the DRC is submitted to the CCMA for certification in terms of the provisions of the LabourRelations Act. Once this has been done the matter is submitted to the Labour Court for an execution order. Once the execution order has been granted by the Court, the Sheriff of the Court is instructed to attach assets which are then sold to realize the outstanding debt. You can well imagine that this is quite a long process , most of which is not in Mibco’s hands and it can therefore be quite time consuming. Fortunately, many cases are settled before the Labour Court stage is reached.”

        Regards

        Madelein

  39. ntombi

    hi madeline, if i am working as a stripper & assembler in a panel beating shop…and i have taken my 15 days leave during the year already…do i get paid any bonus.PLEASE HELP.

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Ntombi

      If you have already taken the maximum amount of paid leave days through the year and your company shuts down for December holidays, you will have to take unpaid leave but will still qualify for the holiday bonus or additional holiday pay depending on your grade and circumstances.

      Regards

      Madelein

  40. jade

    madeline,im all confused here please help…on my payslip the manager has got me as “clerk” stores department & cleaner & security…i donk know wats goin on coz i only sign out & recieve tools,make dailt orders & recieve them thats all…are they allowed to put this on my payslip???

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Jade

      Firstly, you must refer to your letter of employment or employment contract. What were you appointed to do originally? The payslip job description must match your letter of appointment. If you were promoted since then or moved into a different position, the employer should have given you confirmation of your new job and increased salary (if relevant) in writing. The job description on your promotion letter or change in job description agreement should display on your payslip. If you have nothing in writing, please speak to your employer about this since the tasks you are performing do not seem to match the job description that displays on your payslip.
      If your employer is not being cooperative, please contact the Chief Agent at your regional MIBCO office for assistance. To find the correct contact person’s details, please visit http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us

      Regards

      Madelein

  41. karen

    My husband works as a cassual for duys engineering since Jan 2013. He is employed as an assembler. How do we work out his grade and minimum wage and do they have union rights. The company does not inform them of their rights and have been working with no contract since sept 2013

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Karen

      Contact the MIBCO Shared Services Centre on 011 – 369 7500. Alternatively, find your regional MIBCO office contact details on http://www.mibco.org.za/index.php/contact-us

      It is best to contact the Council directly to provide as much info regarding your situation as possible. They will be able to give you the right advice.

      Regards

      Madelein

      • karen

        Thank you madelein. Will MIBCO speak directly to me as my husband is not allowed to make calls from work. We are in durban

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Karen

        I am sure if you explain the situation they won’t be unreasonable. Just make sure you have your husband’s council reference number on hand when contacting them. The KZN office can be contacted directly on 031 – 205 5525

        Regards

        Madelein

      • karen

        Thanx Madelein. What number is that that I need, he doesn’t have one is that cos he employed as a casual by the company?

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Karen

        He will only be classified as a casual if he is employed for less than 24 hours per month or for less than 104 days per year if he is a student. Therefore, if he is not a student and he is employed for more than 24 hours per month, he is not a casual and the employer is obliged to register him with the Bargaining Council.

        Regards

        Madelein

      • karen

        Thank you. He is over 40 and emplyed as temp not permanent but been there since Jan. If he has not been registered what do we do then?

      • Madelein van der Watt

        Hi Karen

        It does not sound to me as if his situation complies with the definition of casual employment therefore he must be registered. Contant the KZN regional office for further advice.

        Regards

        Madelein

      • karen

        Thank you will do so

      • karen

        Good day Madelein. We tried to email Lynette at the kzn MIBCO branch but email failed and today I tried cvalling but no one answeres. Yesterday the owner of the company wanted to fire my husband cos he was ssitting outside the workshop with the supervisor, without asking why or allowing an explanation he said I don’t have to listen to ur stories and I don’t pay u to sit around but using foul language. When my husband said if I have done so muuch wrong why not fire me so he did exactly that. His supervisor consulted with one of the managers and they were told the owner can do as he see’s fit and doesn’t need a reason for firing and he doesn’t need to respect his workers. This is getting out of hand and we not getting anywhere

  42. simon maseko

    hi,i was working at two filing stations and i traying to get provident fund but sstracling to with my latest imployer?if he can fill the form does that mean i will also get provident fund from the filing station?corncen simon

  43. jade

    Hi madelien…sorry to bother,if someone has resigned & working @ another company but wants their provident fund from the previous company,how should he go about it,the manager says if he wants his provident fund,he will only get the money he contributed to the company so far and not the money that they company contributed,befor that she said that we will only get it wen we 65….also…the manager has taken our phones away and locked them up in her cupboard “she says it will help to stop the gossiping” but to another employer she said “it will make them concentrate on their work”….i phoned mibco about 2 weeks ago and a lady said that they are not allowed to take our cellphones away but they should have advised us to put our phones off during working hours…they have already changed our contracts and ready for us to sign and the only thing that has changed is the “cellphone story” so should we go ahead and allow them to do this?

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Jade

      If you resigned from your employer to work for an employer in a different industry not affiliated to MIBCO then you must transfer your provident fund to either the new council’s fund or a private fund. Alternatively, you may request a cash payout but this is not advisable.
      If you resigned to work for an employer that operates within the same industry and is affiliated to MIBCO, your fund membership will remain in tact and you will continue to contribute to the MIBCO provident fund.
      Your employer may introduce a clause in your employment contract that prohibits you from making personal calls or accessing your personal phone, especially if your job is customer facing or you are employed in a call centre. You are allowed to make use of your personal phone during allocated breaks and your lunch hour and I am sure that your cellphone is the main point of contact if a family member needs to get hold of you in an emergency, therefore I do not agree that locking your personal phone away while you are at work is acceptable.
      Explain to your employer that you will agree not to make or take personal calls during working hours but that you will need access to your phone during your breaks and lunch hour and also in case of a family emergency.

      Regards

      Madelein

  44. thandeka

    hi madelein…how long does it take to get your provident fund after claimimg for it…my friends husband claimed for his provident fund about a year ago and he till didnt get it,would you u know he should get it.HE worked in the metal industry.

  45. Tina

    Hi Madelein. The two week notice period. Does is include public holidays.

  46. jada

    Morning,are staff phones allowed to be confiscated and put in a box and kept in the “so called managers cupboard”??? wen i phoned mibco myself,i spoke to a lady and she said they not allowed to be taken away but they should tell us to put our phones off and only use them in our breaks,then the manager said she phoned JULIAN from mibco and he said that they have to be taken away from us,just need your advise on this,it was said if we dont give our phones in from today the 27/01/2014 we would be getting final warnings.

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Jada

      Your employer may expect of you to switch off your cellphones during working hours but you must be allowed to access your personal phones during break times and your lunch hour. It is completely out of line to threaten you with a final warning for refusing to hand over your cell phone. If you do receive a warning for not handing in your cell phone, you must report your employer to the CCMA. Please contact their call centre on 0861 16 16 16 or visit http://www.ccma.org.za/

      Regards

      Madelein

  47. kelvin

    Since the we got increase in 2012 we had never been given any increase,and the sad thing is that we don’t get paid any increase by our company,how long will it take for the minister to sign the agreement which you agreed last year during strike?

  48. Hi there I woeld like to find out how much leaf days I have outstanding up to date I have been working at motor industry for 9 years and rarely claimed leaf pay. I wpoeld like to know about my funds thank u kindly francois

  49. Zolile solani

    Hi im currently workng for a company called Johnson Control Interior in east london,we are told our current rate which is R24,70 is the minimum mibco agreement,can you guys confirm this or not.

  50. angela

    hi…theres a problem in our workplace again,our employers son whose got shares in the company,today he swore 2 staff and used terrible vulgar words,we went upstaires to the manager and asked her to sort the matter out and she said she didnt know how to and that she is tired of talking to him.please give some advice on what we should do.thanx

    • Madelein van der Watt

      Hi Angela

      Firstly, I would make sure that the employer’s son is aware that you took offence to the manner in which he addressed you. I would then approach the manager again to lodge an official grievance. If the manager is still reluctant to act, speak to your HR manager or the employer himself and explain that the son’s verbal abuse is affecting staff morale and productivity and is also completely unacceptable. If your employer does not act on the grievance lodged, he must be made aware that there are legal consequences for not acting on your concerns and allowing verbal abuse in the workplace can cost him thousands in compensation.
      It is very difficult to get out of a situation like this but you may want to report the employer to the Department of Labour or CCMA if the verbal abuse continues. If you have no success going this route, you are still able to resign if working conditions become unbearable and then lodge a complaint of constructive dismissal at the CCMA.

      Good luck!

      Madelein

  51. Zolile solani

    What is the rate for level 4

  52. zaheer vally

    Hi I’d like to find I work for a company for like 6 years and I received an increase only once please advise and I’m am registered under mibco and if I work 6 days a week from 8-5 and on sat from 8-1pm am I entitled to 1 off day

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